Wikipedia Triple Play
Why Triple play? Because I have three News and Comments in one post. All about Wikipedia. Search Engine Optimization and Wikipedia, a love-hate relationship. Wikipedia Pages Rank well, very well. Heaven for SEO Professionals, If the darn Wikipedians wouldn’t be there and for the larger part don’t like anything commercial.
A relationship that is not going too well so far.
First Play
Steve “Rubel “discovered” this week the system page at Wikipedia called Linksearch , which allows you to Find all links to your domain that can be found within Wikipedia Pages (any pages)
Second Play
Talking about Links. Wikipedia does not like if people show up, edit the article anonymously and the only contribution made is a link to a Website in the “External Link Section”. If you do that, it does not really matter how much of an authority or resource you are, depending on the “spammyness” of the Article will the link stay minutes, hours or maybe days. The chance to get a lasting link in Wikipedia like that is pretty much 0.
If you are an authority on the topic. Take the Time to improve the article and start writing new and related ones that don’t exist yet.
Todd Mintz had a very interesting post over at SearchEngineGuide.com yesterday, titled “How To Create Your Own Wikipedia Page”
Being a Wikipedian myself, I recommend to check following pages at Wikipedia before you start editing and creating pages like crazy. “Your First Article“. A Quick Guide written specifically for the editors that are new to Wikipedia; WP:EL – Wikipedia Guideline for External Links in the Article; WP:NPOV – Wikipedia Guideline to “Neutral Point of View” – The reasoning behind this is explained well in Todd’s Article.
To see what’s going on in the “Janitor” Department at Wikipedia, stop by the Project: SPAM Pages to see what their current problems are.
Help is needed for the Affiliate Marketing Article as well as for the surrounding Topics.
The Search Engine Optimization Article is also glad to get helping hands. This Article established a small community that works together on changes and issues. Be nice
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Triple Play
I noticed something yesterday that made sense to me for a long time. I don’t know if it is permanent or not. My Research results are a bit inconclusive at the moment.
If you go to Wikipedia, you will notice that every page (yes, every page) has a supplemental “Talk” page to discuss things regarding the main page. Google used to Rank those talk pages too. Now every Article I look at, has a talk page with a page rank 0. I am talking about content rich talk pages, some even richer (from a spider point of view) than the article itself.
| Page/Article | PR Toolbar | PR Lookup | PR Predict Curr | PR Predict New | ||||
| Article | Talk | Article | Talk | Article | Talk | Article | Talk | |
| Home (Talk) | 9 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 8 (7.7) | 4 (3.6) |
| Affiliate Marketing (Talk) | 6 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 6 | n/a | 4 (4.3) | n/a |
| Search Engine Optimization (Talk) | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 5 (5.1) | 3 (3.4) |
| Online Advertising (Talk) | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 4 (4.4) | n/a |
| Online Marketing (Talk) | 6 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 6 | n/a | 5 (4.6) | n/a |
| E-marketing (Talk) | 6 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 6 | n/a | 4 (3.7) | n/a |
| Superior Art Creations (Talk) | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| ASCII art (Talk) | 6 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 6 | n/a | 5 (4.5) | n/a |
| Computer Art Scene (Talk) | 5 | 0 | 5 | 0 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| DeviantART (Talk) | 6 | 0 | 6 | 0 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Blog (Talk) | 7 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 7 | n/a | 7 (6.5) | n/a |
| My User Page (Talk) | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
This had been used in the past by some to sneak links into Wikipedia. Below is a metrics of the articles I checked and their talk pages.
I used the Google Toolbar for IE and validated the results with the results from the Developer Shed PageRank Lookup over at SEOChat.com .
I then checked the values against the Google PageRank Prediction Tool which also makes pretty accurate prediction for the PageRank a page is likely to have after the next PageRank update.
The tool had problems to determine the values for some pages. I don’t know if this is a glitch in the tool or related to the changes that are currently happening.
Interesting to notice is the fact that User Talk Pages are not affected. which could be the case, because the URL to User Talk Pages is a bit different structured than the Article Talk Pages.
It will be interesting to see if it is something Google is just testing or something they want to keep and improve. This needs to be seen.
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http://www.affiliate-software-review.com Peter Koning
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http://www.cumbrowski.com/ Carsten Cumbrowski

