Opinion: Google SlumSense Empires Made Easy…

Sam reports at CostPerNews

 

Taking advantage of the system or optimizing it?

Either way, AdSense is a poor way to advertise and a worse way to monetize. Unless you just want short term gains. Then, by all means… run as many contextual ads as your template will fit.

Sure, it makes money if you have enough page views.

But are contextual ads really worth it?

I don’t think so. Monetize your traffic with ideas and interactions. Not with text links

At one time it was a good way Sam- and so convenient- you could focus on content and innovation. Sweet memories. Google is literally destroying the Adsense network out of hubris, ignorance, pressure from the street or idiocy. I don’t know which, maybe something else- alien influence?

A commenter goes on to ask at CPN:

 

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The post is about getting cheap Adwords Clicks & has nothing to do with Adsense. Or am I missing something?

Yes- you are missing something- the cheap clicks are on the Adsense system. It is basically CPA marketers cannibalizing the inventory of Adsense publishers or advertiser’s in the contextual network. Avoid the premiums of search, but what is telling is how crappy the pay is at Google Adsense. A penny a targeted click? Gee- sounds like the Zango system sans the malware.

Sam, or others, feel to free to correct me if I am wrong, but what I have observed is this-

Adsense used to be an excellent way to monetize a site (for some it still is)- I remember, long, long ago checks that were simply staggering. How can Google do what the networks could not? Is their algorithm that good? (I have lots of screenshots that will show you just how good it is…) or is their brand that strong? I think the latter.

Then it was decoupled from organic search, as it should have been in the first place, and Google continued to let in every kind of trashy site possible- the ones they seem to verbally rail against YET SUPPORT financially through their system.

Google contributes directly to the Internet pollution problem and then complains about it. Hypocrites.

Yes, I said it- Google*** actually supports the very pollution they claim to revile, or at least the ones I do- beyond my honeypot sites of course. I need those to catch folks.

These are sites that offer little value, often random content scrapers. I think it is absolutely fine to aggregate content (extracts only, full feeds only with permission), there IS some value in that. You can even build on that in a win-win, but when that is all you offer- you are just an opportunist. The inclusion of these sites destroys the better eCPC for mid-tier, emerging or quality publishers. This is the battle front Industry Brains and ValidClick seek to attack. Nice flanking assault. Yahoo! and MSN should follow suit. Good competition is badly needed.

Forget so called “invalid clicks” or “click fraud” (less than 2% uhuh- pass the pipe) let’s just look at clicks valued at .01. Thanks, I can make more money scraping my car seats or begging for far less effort. I remember when blind clicks and onBlur traffic produced .02 to .03 per click. What do we get in a system like this? Tactical arbitrage via CPA or recycled arbitrage through the same Adsense system.

To beat it all they have the nerve to push around their “Don’t Be Evil” mantra and slash at paid reviews, etc. While I have not participated in a paid review, I have been watching their emergence, and I think the system could be far better setup, more fruitful and add far more value down the chain- far better than 0.01 CPC ads. Still working on it with a nascent idea…but if the money is up front, if the rules and processes fully layed out- bloggers and their communities can add real value, but only if advertisers have the guts to take the good with the bad- transparency.

Tell you what- I think people would adore advertisers willing to take that chance. To be human, to ask for feedback both good and bad. That kind of honesty builds brand evagelism. Don’t tell that to a leading PR agency…they will tell you to go build fake blogs. (e.g. Edelman)

After rethinking sites like Review Me (reviewme.com) I find my thoughts moving deeper- at least this system is more fair if disclosed properly and has a rigid system and encourgaes two-way feedback both negative and positive. The cards are up front, the price and payment are up front, so there is no strong incentive for trickery in the blogosphere due to performance payouts. If you innovate- you get no support, if you jam the volume by any means- they will pay you more. Brilliant system…no wonder we have world hunger.

Rumors are that Google doesn’t like these paid review sites. Of course they don’t- it messes with their algorithms, although it probably tightens them too. Gotta love A.I.

However, whether the trade is in influence, a quiet reciprocal link, a good or service exchanged, cash, etc something is changing hands to make these relationships happen. I think that might be a barter system- possibly taxable under U.S. law? But we will never talk about that action- keep it on the down low and not too much…and it is ok.

Google can only target what they can see (and that can be blinded), albeit they can statistically see alot- just like pharmacists can tell drug abuse in a hospital by looking at medication adminstration patterns and standard deviation from the mean.

Still very few want to speak out against the mighty Google- some pray to the Google gods or the damn and so-called Google Dance. Others clutch rabbit feet. Idiocy. Don’t fear the mighty search engine. First you should not build your business around the whims of an algorithm you cannot control…visitor acquisition concentration risk. Just as Google should not build their revenue around one technology- javascript- revenue concentration risk. Bye-Bye javascript- Google has a problem. Thank god for video eh?

I don’t fear Google. Go ahead and ban me, punish me, smack me around the SERPs…it will make my work more challenging, but I will feel better at night, and I already understand that for a well balanced site exposure it is key to keep Google organic traffic less than 30% if you can..

Remember in aggregate we control them- they do not control us. It is only competition that creates the divide.

Sadly I have went from fanatical Google evangelist who proudly bought tee-shirts- to a highly skeptical and dissapointed fan.

Anyway- in the example above they are effectively using Adsense sites to gain clicks at an eCPC at .01 to .03 per click range (as I said- I remember when blind clicks and onBlur traffic used to pay that.) and they simply use this inventory to play “Bulk- Long Tail Arbitrage”…on a CPA or CPC basis (remixed Adsense).

Is this all bad? Maybe I am off base. Is this good? Is it market efficiency being reclaimed? You tell me.

Google:

- Stop denying clickfraud- no one rational is buying it. I agree numbers are inflated, clickfraud firms are using flawed methodologies just as affiliates often compare network metrics apples to apples without understanding unique accounting systems make it apples to oranges. You DO NOT have it all covered despite your legions of geniuses, dark fiber and linux boxes. I run into it in the field everyday, I see how Google is manipulated and at times in such comical fashion I am flabbergasted.

I have to wonder if I am on someone else’s honeypot. I can’t wait to see how you handle the impending monetization of YouTube. If I can track the much of this system gaming with such ease, I don’t see how you cannot- you have billions- I certainly do not. Perhaps the answer is too simple, perhaps Google doesn’t care, in all fairness- perhaps, like battered Affiliate Managers, who are under immense pressure from management like you are from Wall Street. Go ahead- have a crappy quarter and get them off your back so you can get back to your mission- remember that? I do.

- At the very least please stop funding the super slummy made for adsense “empires”. Please. I watched the KMeth Worm story filter out and get scraped up by even more cancer lawsuit gaming sites- disgusting. I took Mr. Harrelson on a spin through the trail and watched him have a mini heart attack at where we ended up- don’t worry we will never speak of it- we are sane. Yep- they gamed the very damn news story about the Yahoo! worm that targeted Google Adsense en passant (no forced clicks I add). What gall, what a slap in the face!

From Sam’s Revenews entry:

 

Click fraud is alive and very well for those of you wondering why this may be a big deal. I’ll be blogging more this week about a recent trip down the rabbit hole with the famous (or infamous depending on your persuasion) Wayne Porter. This trip started with an AdSense scraping site making money off of high paying “mesothelioma” keywords and led to some places that caused me severe “shock and awe.” The implications are beyond what I would consider just superficial, and extend well into the very ideas and assumptions that we hold about the internet and the money trail it provides which an lead to some very unsavory places.

Unsavory- you can say that again….

- Remember- you have people like me that really want to believe in Google. I used to be a brand evangelist. Maybe I am too early to judge, but what I see in the field, and what I hear or two different things.

I am now, more than ever, going to work on the problems of blog monetization and techniques not seen or tried before…and interaction is going to play a key role in that…the current system(s) are utterly and completely broken and frankly- quite stupid.

*** Note when I say Google I mean the entity. I know there are very good people in any organization, and you can’t tar all people by a “corporations” actions. But, you gotta lay it somewhere- so ticker symbol (NASDAQ:GOOG). Come on- restore my faith.

ADDENDUM: Slight edits made for clarity, spelling. Also note a Beta Podcast response by Sam Harrelson at Cost Per News.

  • Jonathan (Trust)

    "Adsense used to be an excellent way to monetize a site (for some it still is)- I remember, long, long ago checks that were simply staggering."

    I use Adsense just on one site and it works fine, like it always has. Not following what checks you are referring too that were staggering a long time ago and are not now? Personal sites or sites of friends, what specifically are you referring too. Or is it just a feeling you have?

  • Patrick Grady

    I'm with Trust here, AdSense works fine. What did happen was that G uncoupled the content bids from the search/network bids and bids fell substantially – because the clicks weren't worth it – they never were. But as G adds site exclusion features, smart pricing, transparency issues where domains can be isolated – those with value are doing just fine. I run AdSense and my per click revenue has never been higher.

    To assume something of lesser value can maintain an inflated price forever, in a free market, is immature.

    You can't blame G for letting the market more precisely price content clicks – that's backward thinking.

  • http://www.cumbrowski.com Carsten Cumbrowski

    Hi Wayne,

    Nice Rant, may I ask what the trigger was? Just Sam's post? I hear you regarding Google. I had plenty of rants myself over the last 1+ year.

    It's now the corporate world of Google, Inc. Whoever believes something else, lives in a world of denial.

  • http://www.revenews.com Wayne Porter

    Trust- multiple tens of thousands. All I can disclose.

    Works "fine"- what does that mean? What is "fine"?
    Works fine or optimal? If the trash were removed the eCPC would increase for quality publishers.

    Carsten- what triggered it? It needed to be said. I see too much cowtailing to Google. Let's get the problems out front and center. I run into absolute garbage on a regular basis. Tired of it. I see Google funding what they say destroys the web- WHY?

    -wayne

  • http://www.get-in2.com Mike Hyland

    Nice post Wayne s you obviously pierced the G-corporate veil professing to "Do No Evil". Your own bot quests and honey pots, digesting the money grubbing schemes of familiar names in various disguises, just screams for a major OUTING. Not surprising your finding Google complacency in, and enablement of, planned keyword churn moves allowing them to sit out of the spotlight and rake in the lions share of PPCSE spend profits. No need for them to directly "Do the Evil" when they have premier search partnerships with the most evil money grubbing Adwhore outfits in the world.

    Let the PPCSE fraud idiots spin their wheels outing the scumbags click cheats infesting the Google Adsense content network. Like Yahoo's content network…. Google's can be turned off if advertisers get whacked in junk or phony click traffic. MFA template scrapper sites on disposable domains are just arbitrage click traps plastered throughout the content networks.

    What about the other Google Adsense network parts which aren't so to identify or easy to turn OFF? We're talking about inner sanctum partnerships in the upper range of Adwords/Adsense keyword daily churn ratios. The only Saint sites at the top. It is Google.com search exposure placed next to SERP results. Even there, the playing field is hardly level, as the inner sanctum mid & upper tier Google partners can pay lower contract rates, arrange guaranteed ROI arbitrage buys, or get tipped on where to insert template MFA sites.

    Inner sanctum players in the Google click-churn game cannot be turned off. A client notices hundreds of clicks, without one sale (they average 1 sale per 20 clicks) for months coming from http://www.suspenderscatalog.com A PRO site with one page in Google & Yahoo. Adwords Rep suggested turning off contetn network… clicks keep on coming. Then it's blacklist any links showing client Adwords specifically on http://www.suspenderscatalog.com … still the clicks keep on coming. Next move is to eliminate the upper rier "search partnerships" … and their clicks keep on coming. Owned by who? Keyword management and database mgmt by Who? Try hundreds of other productname+catalog.com sites and there they are. Do the Zombie click bots and click slave farmers use them?? Best question is why doesn't Google Adwords staff know how to allow a 6 year client to disallow clicks from this MFA junk traffic source? Amazing…Pausing the campaign does work!

  • http://www.cumbrowski.com Carsten Cumbrowski

    The Google example demonstrates my opinion that the question is not "If power corrupts", but "When".

    Despite all the crap they did over the past few years did they also did some good stuff, e.g. opened up a little, which puts the question into my mind if there are two different teams playing at the Googleplex or only one and the only difference between the players is the mood they are currently in :) .

  • http://www.wayneporter.com Wayne Porter

    C.

    When you have a company of several thousand and the first thousand give or take a few, become millionaires- I think a schism of some sort is probably created. One can almost see Google "wrestling" with itself. They should, at least, update their mission statement.

  • http://www.ontarget-media.com Manoj

    Intrigued by the quote in the post: "Monetize your traffic with ideas and interactions. Not with text links" — sounds like a rather profound statement. It'd help to know what exactly monetization with ideas and interactions mean?

  • Andrew

    Nobody actually buys the tee-shirts. You get them free at tradeshows.

  • Michael Stone

    As an avid user of Google I completely agree with your viewpoint. Our site has recently moved to Quigo – a company that seems to be doing things right. They have a very clean network and provide total transparency to all involved.