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	<title>Comments on: iPhone Debacle Provides Learning Moment for Marketers and Advertisers</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Harrelson</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10192</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Harrelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s the main sticking point for people who agree with me over this... I do view the iPhone as more computer (or at least hand held internet device) than phone. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#039;s the main sticking point for people who agree with me over this&#8230; I do view the iPhone as more computer (or at least hand held internet device) than phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Waller</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10191</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Waller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, 
 
Maybe we just have to disagree.  I see the iPhone as an iPod, not a computer.  You buy a computer and expect to modify it and add software.  You don&#039;t buy an iPod and then expect Apple to back it fully if you go and mess with the OS and add stuff not suported by Apple.  Particularly when Apple has said all along that they don&#039;t want you messing with it and users knew that there would be frequent software updates. 
 
Do I agree with the strategy?  Not at all.  I think that they should have opened the device like the Treo.  Let the developers come out with some great apps and let users add them as they want.  I love my Treo because of the 3rd party apps, not because of what they built into it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, </p>
<p>Maybe we just have to disagree.  I see the iPhone as an iPod, not a computer.  You buy a computer and expect to modify it and add software.  You don&#039;t buy an iPod and then expect Apple to back it fully if you go and mess with the OS and add stuff not suported by Apple.  Particularly when Apple has said all along that they don&#039;t want you messing with it and users knew that there would be frequent software updates. </p>
<p>Do I agree with the strategy?  Not at all.  I think that they should have opened the device like the Treo.  Let the developers come out with some great apps and let users add them as they want.  I love my Treo because of the 3rd party apps, not because of what they built into it!</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10190</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting move by Apple. I can understand the money based motives behind it, but I would have thought (maybe naively) that they&#039;d make a killing of selling those phones either way - possibly even more if they open up the device... 
 
This being Apple - makes me think there&#039;s a bigger thought, or an incredible amount of money locked behind this whole thing... 
 
Any insight? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting move by Apple. I can understand the money based motives behind it, but I would have thought (maybe naively) that they&#039;d make a killing of selling those phones either way &#8211; possibly even more if they open up the device&#8230; </p>
<p>This being Apple &#8211; makes me think there&#039;s a bigger thought, or an incredible amount of money locked behind this whole thing&#8230; </p>
<p>Any insight?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Harrelson</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10189</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Harrelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad- 
 
To me, that&#039;s like Apple bricking every Macbook and iMac that users have loaded 3rd party apps on.  It doesn&#039;t make sense. 
 
Voiding someone&#039;s warranty for tinkering with equipment is one thing (and no one would have an argument with Apple for doing so).  Completely bricking the device to non-functionality is over the line, though. 
 
A company that seeks complete control over a system that I&#039;ve bought and paid for and can voluntary &quot;break it&quot; at their own volition seems quite unethical and everything that the Fanboys believe Apple is against. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad- </p>
<p>To me, that&#039;s like Apple bricking every Macbook and iMac that users have loaded 3rd party apps on.  It doesn&#039;t make sense. </p>
<p>Voiding someone&#039;s warranty for tinkering with equipment is one thing (and no one would have an argument with Apple for doing so).  Completely bricking the device to non-functionality is over the line, though. </p>
<p>A company that seeks complete control over a system that I&#039;ve bought and paid for and can voluntary &quot;break it&quot; at their own volition seems quite unethical and everything that the Fanboys believe Apple is against.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Waller</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10188</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Waller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno.  The iPhone was marketed as a closed system.  One of the reasons I chose the Treo over the iPhone was that I could hack and modify the Treo.  I added a 3rd party launcher and use a number of programs written by others that I use daily. 
 
When you buy a closed phone (like just about every other phone on the market) you get what you buy.  When Apple came out with their iPhone it was pretty well understood that they were not going to allow 3rd party applications or unlocking.  Those who chose to fiddle with their phones knew fully well the risks they were taking. 
 
While I feel for those who spent money on &quot;bricks&quot; I also can&#039;t go and put blame on Apple. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno.  The iPhone was marketed as a closed system.  One of the reasons I chose the Treo over the iPhone was that I could hack and modify the Treo.  I added a 3rd party launcher and use a number of programs written by others that I use daily. </p>
<p>When you buy a closed phone (like just about every other phone on the market) you get what you buy.  When Apple came out with their iPhone it was pretty well understood that they were not going to allow 3rd party applications or unlocking.  Those who chose to fiddle with their phones knew fully well the risks they were taking. </p>
<p>While I feel for those who spent money on &quot;bricks&quot; I also can&#039;t go and put blame on Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike HYland</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike HYland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having witnessed every single dedicated Apple reseller (VAR) operation get hosed by the Apple planned obsolescene practice. They always built-in destruction of existing Apple platforms by every new productline release to penalized their small cult following. Exact opposite the Bill Gates model of encouraging 3rd party developers since day one of Microsoft. 
 
Moral of the story is you get fleas even when laying down with a totally liberal pink bisexual poodle. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having witnessed every single dedicated Apple reseller (VAR) operation get hosed by the Apple planned obsolescene practice. They always built-in destruction of existing Apple platforms by every new productline release to penalized their small cult following. Exact opposite the Bill Gates model of encouraging 3rd party developers since day one of Microsoft. </p>
<p>Moral of the story is you get fleas even when laying down with a totally liberal pink bisexual poodle.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/online-marketing/iphone-debacle-provides-learning-moment-for-marketers-and-advertisers/#comment-10186</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more iPhone fun - among people who got special international plans set to use theirs in London this past week - some worked and some didn&#039;t.

I doubt the folks who bothered to get a special plan setup and then didn&#039;t have a phone were saying &quot;Cheers!&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more iPhone fun &#8211; among people who got special international plans set to use theirs in London this past week &#8211; some worked and some didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I doubt the folks who bothered to get a special plan setup and then didn&#8217;t have a phone were saying &#8220;Cheers!&#8221;.</p>
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