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	<title>Comments on: &#8230;And I&#8217;ll No Longer Be a Capulet</title>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11138</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice AFF!  What&#039;s in a name anyways?  We do what we do because we&#039;re passionate about it.   
 
I like this pic better Shawn!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/32cmez&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/32cmez&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice AFF!  What&#039;s in a name anyways?  We do what we do because we&#039;re passionate about it.  </p>
<p>I like this pic better Shawn!<br />
  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/32cmez" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/32cmez</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11125</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clear things up, I took a picture of some affs last week: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/affsum/2287396941/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.flickr.com/photos/affsum/2287396941/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clear things up, I took a picture of some affs last week: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/affsum/2287396941/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/affsum/2287396941/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11122</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam- that could be a tee-shirt. Just An Aff 
 
Again- what is an aff.? 
 
No one seems to know, but I think it should be much more. 
 
-wayne </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam- that could be a tee-shirt. Just An Aff</p>
<p>Again- what is an aff.?</p>
<p>No one seems to know, but I think it should be much more.</p>
<p>-wayne</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Viener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Viener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I&#039;m just an aff. 
 
Call it what you want, personally I like to talk in terms of profits instead of burn rates. 
 
Adam </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#039;m just an aff.</p>
<p>Call it what you want, personally I like to talk in terms of profits instead of burn rates.</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11070</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The testing node goes off. You know the one that actually KNOWS things...The Grid is saturated with pollution. :)

How about affiliate marketing is something that we do, but not who we are? Because we are more than that. Disruptive, Content writers, Tuners, Creative, Coding,  R&amp;D list goes on...those who practice it are truly multi-threaded machines...we don&#039;t have a good word for it.

Actually I propose you all storm Silicon Valley and get your wad of VC money...but I know a lot of you- you don&#039;t think short term or long term- think all term. You think practical and work with what you have because you enjoy building what you own and controlling your fate.

Fate may catch up to everyone. After all we have to die sooner or later. 

You cannot cleanup the industry alone, it will keep flowing- like slime, its really in the CPC sector, so don&#039;t be misdirected. You CAN ensure you are reasonably intact and get involved with something other than what has previously been done.



-wayne &quot;no one owns traffic&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The testing node goes off. You know the one that actually KNOWS things&#8230;The Grid is saturated with pollution. <img src='http://www.revenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How about affiliate marketing is something that we do, but not who we are? Because we are more than that. Disruptive, Content writers, Tuners, Creative, Coding,  R&#038;D list goes on&#8230;those who practice it are truly multi-threaded machines&#8230;we don&#8217;t have a good word for it.</p>
<p>Actually I propose you all storm Silicon Valley and get your wad of VC money&#8230;but I know a lot of you- you don&#8217;t think short term or long term- think all term. You think practical and work with what you have because you enjoy building what you own and controlling your fate.</p>
<p>Fate may catch up to everyone. After all we have to die sooner or later. </p>
<p>You cannot cleanup the industry alone, it will keep flowing- like slime, its really in the CPC sector, so don&#8217;t be misdirected. You CAN ensure you are reasonably intact and get involved with something other than what has previously been done.</p>
<p>-wayne &#8220;no one owns traffic&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statements that affiliates are spammers and bottom-feeders is just ridiculous. And it&#039;s distracting from what should be the real issue....the greedy bastards who are doing the polluting. Certainly not restricted to &quot;affiliates&quot; by a long shot.  
 
Now where did I leave my jockstrap..errrr...biohazard suit? I hear tell there are some polluted electrons out there on the Net. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statements that affiliates are spammers and bottom-feeders is just ridiculous. And it&#039;s distracting from what should be the real issue&#8230;.the greedy bastards who are doing the polluting. Certainly not restricted to &quot;affiliates&quot; by a long shot. </p>
<p>Now where did I leave my jockstrap..errrr&#8230;biohazard suit? I hear tell there are some polluted electrons out there on the Net. <img src='http://www.revenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually a jockstrap as well. If your going to take action...best get covered. They have no concept of fair. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually a jockstrap as well. If your going to take action&#8230;best get covered. They have no concept of fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11067</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Considering you don&#8217;t know me&quot; 
 
Right. Part of the problem. You should know who and all I about me if you wish. I open sourced myself a while ago. 
 
 
&quot;and that you&#8217;re well aware of past discussions and how things have turned out, who was right/wrong, that&#8217;s a pretty ridiculous statement.&quot; 
 
Hate to break it to you, but you really have no idea regarding the WICKED politics of this industry and what really went on. Many people don&#039;t know. Too late now. I did my task, wish it had turned out better. One learns. :)  Neutral party that stays true north is twice crucified... :) I should have picked a side...I did. 
 
&quot;But back to cleaning up the industry and things like that, it starts at home. It could start here but it has to be more action type stuff, not just talk. Check the direct Twitter I sent you.&quot; 
 
Not me- your turn. I have spent years ripping apart spyware, putting self at risk. This time you can. Kellie Stevens same way...diving in deep try clean up scum. &quot;Thanks Kellie&quot; most of you- did nothing...well Haiko raised hell, but it was often perceived as noise. He was consistent in purpose. (nods) 
 
Nope Jonathan...all yours- hit em man. Best of luck. 
 
-wayne  
 
Revenews is going down new paths- far beyond affiliate marketing as you know it. Some won&#039;t get it, that is ok- new genetics will come in. Way of things. 
 
BTW bring your balls. I assure you it can get real mean. So bring pool stick as well. 
 
-w- </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Considering you don&rsquo;t know me&quot;</p>
<p>Right. Part of the problem. You should know who and all I about me if you wish. I open sourced myself a while ago.</p>
<p>&quot;and that you&rsquo;re well aware of past discussions and how things have turned out, who was right/wrong, that&rsquo;s a pretty ridiculous statement.&quot;</p>
<p>Hate to break it to you, but you really have no idea regarding the WICKED politics of this industry and what really went on. Many people don&#039;t know. Too late now. I did my task, wish it had turned out better. One learns. <img src='http://www.revenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Neutral party that stays true north is twice crucified&#8230; <img src='http://www.revenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I should have picked a side&#8230;I did.</p>
<p>&quot;But back to cleaning up the industry and things like that, it starts at home. It could start here but it has to be more action type stuff, not just talk. Check the direct Twitter I sent you.&quot;</p>
<p>Not me- your turn. I have spent years ripping apart spyware, putting self at risk. This time you can. Kellie Stevens same way&#8230;diving in deep try clean up scum. &quot;Thanks Kellie&quot; most of you- did nothing&#8230;well Haiko raised hell, but it was often perceived as noise. He was consistent in purpose. (nods)</p>
<p>Nope Jonathan&#8230;all yours- hit em man. Best of luck.</p>
<p>-wayne </p>
<p>Revenews is going down new paths- far beyond affiliate marketing as you know it. Some won&#039;t get it, that is ok- new genetics will come in. Way of things.</p>
<p>BTW bring your balls. I assure you it can get real mean. So bring pool stick as well.</p>
<p>-w-</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11049</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you there, Trust.

I am, was, and plan to be an affiliate marketer in the future.

I think these semantic gymnastics are sort of fruitless.

Not everybody thinks it&#039;s such a weighty issue, and I don&#039;t think there will ever be a consensus on a name change.

Also, I think a re-branding effort could reflect that we were hiding from something.

I think a more constructive alternative is to educate outsiders and more effectively brand the industry, while working to rid it of the bad elements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you there, Trust.</p>
<p>I am, was, and plan to be an affiliate marketer in the future.</p>
<p>I think these semantic gymnastics are sort of fruitless.</p>
<p>Not everybody thinks it&#8217;s such a weighty issue, and I don&#8217;t think there will ever be a consensus on a name change.</p>
<p>Also, I think a re-branding effort could reflect that we were hiding from something.</p>
<p>I think a more constructive alternative is to educate outsiders and more effectively brand the industry, while working to rid it of the bad elements.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/and-ill-no-longer-be-a-capulet/#comment-11045</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Identity is needed. DNA is fouled up.

A spammer is a spammer.

A spammer is not an affiliate.

Because they are invalid relationships.

Affiliates, as it is used, groups together a diverse group. Diversity is strength, but hard to articulate. People should think about this long and hard. We are not a union, nor are we united- that has been tried. Phail...but it helped.

READ THE CONTRACT.

Do not let others define you- you define yourself by what you do.

-wayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Identity is needed. DNA is fouled up.</p>
<p>A spammer is a spammer.</p>
<p>A spammer is not an affiliate.</p>
<p>Because they are invalid relationships.</p>
<p>Affiliates, as it is used, groups together a diverse group. Diversity is strength, but hard to articulate. People should think about this long and hard. We are not a union, nor are we united- that has been tried. Phail&#8230;but it helped.</p>
<p>READ THE CONTRACT.</p>
<p>Do not let others define you- you define yourself by what you do.</p>
<p>-wayne</p>
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