Comments on: Accretion Disks and Siding With the Spiders http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/ Discussion of Online Marketing, SEM, Social Media, Mobile and Video, Micro-Content, and Affiliate Marketing Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Angel Djambazov http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11397 Angel Djambazov Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:04:55 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11397 I think expanding towards covering such things as MMOPGs makes a lot of sense. Companies are looking for ways to interact with those communities. Where there are people marketers will try to engage them and often succeed in annoying them. We should try to help them engage more and annoy less. I think expanding towards covering such things as MMOPGs makes a lot of sense. Companies are looking for ways to interact with those communities. Where there are people marketers will try to engage them and often succeed in annoying them. We should try to help them engage more and annoy less.

]]> By: Chris O'Byrne http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11396 Chris O'Byrne Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:12:28 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11396 Wayne, I AM about providing content, that's for sure. Are you saying that affiliate marketing as a whole does not fit into that as well, that affiliate marketing is about directing people to other people's content? I'm going to research micro-transactions and listen to your conversation with Sam... Peace, Chris Wayne,

I AM about providing content, that's for sure. Are you saying that affiliate marketing as a whole does not fit into that as well, that affiliate marketing is about directing people to other people's content?

I'm going to research micro-transactions and listen to your conversation with Sam…

Peace,

Chris

]]> By: Wayne Porter http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11367 Wayne Porter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:15:28 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11367 Chris, Musician is fine too. Bits are bits...first time I played a violin was in a virtual world. Why? I can't play anything elsewhere- can you transfer attention? Yes- just doesn't scale as well- yet. :) People are buying and selling all kinds of things musical and artistic...the are buying goods that do not even exist...USA is slow- it is tremendous in east, italy, etc. Let me think on it a bit... Revenews reaches some very good "monetizers", but unlike virtual world communities (just an example), they tend to be stuck in a rut. Not all, but many are. Chris I think you are all about video, content, micro-transactions, affiliation- is a tool. Not your industry. Thinking... regards, Wayne Chris,

Musician is fine too. Bits are bits…first time I played a violin was in a virtual world. Why? I can't play anything elsewhere- can you transfer attention? Yes- just doesn't scale as well- yet. :)

People are buying and selling all kinds of things musical and artistic…the are buying goods that do not even exist…USA is slow- it is tremendous in east, italy, etc.

Let me think on it a bit… Revenews reaches some very good "monetizers", but unlike virtual world communities (just an example), they tend to be stuck in a rut. Not all, but many are.

Chris I think you are all about video, content, micro-transactions, affiliation- is a tool. Not your industry.

Thinking…

regards,

Wayne

]]> By: Wayne Porter http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11366 Wayne Porter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:08:19 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11366 :) Might even try researching markets...great idea. :) Might even try researching markets…great idea.

]]> By: Chris O'Byrne http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11360 Chris O'Byrne Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:20:49 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11360 Wayne, I'm definitely game for an experiment. I am primarily a musician (bluegrass, flatpick guitar, mandolin, fiddle), but my wife is an artist and, as they say, some of my best friend are artists. Shoot me an email, you have me VERY curious! Chris Wayne,

I'm definitely game for an experiment. I am primarily a musician (bluegrass, flatpick guitar, mandolin, fiddle), but my wife is an artist and, as they say, some of my best friend are artists.

Shoot me an email, you have me VERY curious!

Chris

]]> By: Wayne Porter http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11359 Wayne Porter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:08:53 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11359 Sam, I think Chris is possibly a prototypical experiment in collaborative creation and understanding JIT and POD...Chris you do art yes? I propose we take discussions offline...I know another expert in this field too it is pretty large. Chris- I don't think "affiliation" is what you want. Sam- point is after 10 years, connections, experiences from all angles- the product is knowledge and connections. I don't like e-books either, I like books, with e-lectronic follow-ups, and I like books by people with thought and validation...I have learned that I will pay for solid, consistent knowledge and trend observation, etc...because it is worth my time. Time is an issue...like that one podcast....free, price was listening to a beta....but really good info. Chris I'll talk to Sam- but game for an experiment or two? -wayne Sam,

I think Chris is possibly a prototypical experiment in collaborative creation and understanding JIT and POD…Chris you do art yes? I propose we take discussions offline…I know another expert in this field too it is pretty large. Chris- I don't think "affiliation" is what you want.

Sam- point is after 10 years, connections, experiences from all angles- the product is knowledge and connections. I don't like e-books either, I like books, with e-lectronic follow-ups, and I like books by people with thought and validation…I have learned that I will pay for solid, consistent knowledge and trend observation, etc…because it is worth my time.

Time is an issue…like that one podcast….free, price was listening to a beta….but really good info.

Chris I'll talk to Sam- but game for an experiment or two?

-wayne

]]> By: Chris O'Byrne http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11356 Chris O'Byrne Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:37:51 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11356 Sam... yes! Sam… yes!

]]> By: Chris O'Byrne http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11355 Chris O'Byrne Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:35:57 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11355 Wayne, I definitely see your point about the spider approach. I think Sam may have just solved that problem with his podcast(s). I do come to this site primarily looking for information on affiliate marketing. And I would definitely pay for a product that helped me learn more. I'm still relatively new to this field, but voraciously gobbling up as much information as I can. I'm not naive enough to ask for anyone's secrets, but I would love to have someone say, "here, this is how you get started and keep things moving"... something more detailed than what I have currently found. Okay, here is what is really going on. Trust. There are products out there that I can buy that propose to tell me how to get started in AM, but they are presented with the long-form sales page and testimonial after testimonial that just makes me think, "oh boy, here we go again". I have trust in ReveNews and Sam and you. You come across like normal people, people that aren't full of hype and just trying to sell me something. After several years on the web, my BS-meter has become somewhat finely tuned. Even if you did not present your own product, but said, "Chris, get one of these products, they're the real thing"... then I could look past the hype and feel good about buying the product. I bet their are hundreds of people like me, wanting to get started in AM, but feeling lost in the hyperbole. For me, ReveNews is part of the Federation of Trusted Planets. Wayne, I definitely see your point about the spider approach. I think Sam may have just solved that problem with his podcast(s). I do come to this site primarily looking for information on affiliate marketing. And I would definitely pay for a product that helped me learn more. I'm still relatively new to this field, but voraciously gobbling up as much information as I can. I'm not naive enough to ask for anyone's secrets, but I would love to have someone say, "here, this is how you get started and keep things moving"… something more detailed than what I have currently found.

Okay, here is what is really going on. Trust. There are products out there that I can buy that propose to tell me how to get started in AM, but they are presented with the long-form sales page and testimonial after testimonial that just makes me think, "oh boy, here we go again".

I have trust in ReveNews and Sam and you. You come across like normal people, people that aren't full of hype and just trying to sell me something. After several years on the web, my BS-meter has become somewhat finely tuned. Even if you did not present your own product, but said, "Chris, get one of these products, they're the real thing"… then I could look past the hype and feel good about buying the product.

I bet their are hundreds of people like me, wanting to get started in AM, but feeling lost in the hyperbole. For me, ReveNews is part of the Federation of Trusted Planets.

]]> By: Sam Harrelson http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11354 Sam Harrelson Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:35:39 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11354 Thanks for the encouragement and great analogies, Chris! Want to blog here? :) Thanks for the encouragement and great analogies, Chris!

Want to blog here? :)

]]> By: Wayne Porter http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11351 Wayne Porter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:19:46 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/samharrelson/accretion-disks-and-siding-with-the-spiders/#comment-11351 Sam, Chris is a prime example of the need to cover POD and JIT and another reason to do it- and use it to sell - even at a modest fee "practice what we preach"...or useful software products- doesn't have to be "in the cloud"...i know several things are needed, as do you Sam, and people can buy and use, and rev split with said programmer. Who will get lots of exposure...plus never know who you might meet :) The spider approach is not one I want to take Chris. I am not partial to that, but...what does it say? As for experimental- ask anyone- in marketing Sam and I both push that envelope quite a bit...errr maybe that is the problem Sam... The other part is people don't realize WHO makes up the composition of readership- many publicly traded companies who don't comment or simply read...and many smaller, and bright entrepreneurs... -wayne Sam,

Chris is a prime example of the need to cover POD and JIT and another reason to do it- and use it to sell – even at a modest fee "practice what we preach"…or useful software products- doesn't have to be "in the cloud"…i know several things are needed, as do you Sam, and people can buy and use, and rev split with said programmer. Who will get lots of exposure…plus never know who you might meet :)

The spider approach is not one I want to take Chris. I am not partial to that, but…what does it say?

As for experimental- ask anyone- in marketing Sam and I both push that envelope quite a bit…errr maybe that is the problem Sam…

The other part is people don't realize WHO makes up the composition of readership- many publicly traded companies who don't comment or simply read…and many smaller, and bright entrepreneurs…

-wayne

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