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	<title>Comments on: Putting the Genie Back Into the Bottle</title>
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		<title>By: Alberto G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This issue happened two years ago, I hope it has been resolved. In my opinion toolbars  should be placed in neutral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue happened two years ago, I hope it has been resolved. In my opinion toolbars  should be placed in neutral.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Gianca</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/putting-the-genie-back-into-the-bottle/#comment-20340</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Gianca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I’m against toolbars, but if they’re here to stay,&quot;

I don&#039;t understand that kind of sentiment.

These affiliates and networks are creating these toolbars for one reason only, to get commisions they would never have gotten before. These are not toolbars which persuade people to buy products, these commissions are diverted from publisher affiliates and merchant traffic that already exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I’m against toolbars, but if they’re here to stay,&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand that kind of sentiment.</p>
<p>These affiliates and networks are creating these toolbars for one reason only, to get commisions they would never have gotten before. These are not toolbars which persuade people to buy products, these commissions are diverted from publisher affiliates and merchant traffic that already exists.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kellie, 
A good read seeing how you&#039;ve laid out the facts with a neutral perspective. 
 
I&#039;m still not clear how the &#039;customer support&#039; dynamic plays into the toolbar, perhaps like a knowledgebase or browser toolbar version of Ask.com or Wikipedia with affiliate links? 
 
I think toolbar are a neutral technology, it&#039;s the practices that need to be looked at as Brian and you have alluded to. 
 
At the heard of this, it&#039;s the affiliate cookie overriding element that needs to be addressed and ultimately stamped out. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kellie,</p>
<p>A good read seeing how you&#039;ve laid out the facts with a neutral perspective.</p>
<p>I&#039;m still not clear how the &#039;customer support&#039; dynamic plays into the toolbar, perhaps like a knowledgebase or browser toolbar version of Ask.com or Wikipedia with affiliate links?</p>
<p>I think toolbar are a neutral technology, it&#039;s the practices that need to be looked at as Brian and you have alluded to.</p>
<p>At the heard of this, it&#039;s the affiliate cookie overriding element that needs to be addressed and ultimately stamped out.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/putting-the-genie-back-into-the-bottle/#comment-20114</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Star Affiliate Marketing Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Toolbars Adware Parasites and Policy...&lt;/strong&gt;

I blogged yesterday about the growing controversy surrounding Brian Littleton&#039;s attempt to create a policy for accepted usage of toolbars on the Shareasale Network: ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Toolbars Adware Parasites and Policy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I blogged yesterday about the growing controversy surrounding Brian Littleton&#8217;s attempt to create a policy for accepted usage of toolbars on the Shareasale Network: &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Star Affiliate Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/putting-the-genie-back-into-the-bottle/#comment-20109</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Star Affiliate Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Toolbars Adware Parasites and Policy...&lt;/strong&gt;

I have been exceedingly frustrated at times by technology being abused to the point of causing schisms within our industry… For years now I have worked to outline a model for adware behavior
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Toolbars Adware Parasites and Policy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I have been exceedingly frustrated at times by technology being abused to the point of causing schisms within our industry… For years now I have worked to outline a model for adware behavior<br />
&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Bechdolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Bechdolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I commend Brian for his efforts to deal with this issue in the manner in which he has.  One of the primary reasons for starting up four different merchant programs at SAS over the years is based on the years of ethical behavior I have seen at SAS that I had not seen at other big networks.  I trust that Brian really does look at the entire playing field when trying to deal with situations like this.   
 
I, too, have signed up for the round table discussion and look forward to that discussion. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend Brian for his efforts to deal with this issue in the manner in which he has.  One of the primary reasons for starting up four different merchant programs at SAS over the years is based on the years of ethical behavior I have seen at SAS that I had not seen at other big networks.  I trust that Brian really does look at the entire playing field when trying to deal with situations like this.  </p>
<p>I, too, have signed up for the round table discussion and look forward to that discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Littleton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Littleton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kellie, 
 
A very reasoned and well written post - excellent work. 
 
I agree that we need to show we are up to the challenge of putting together a policy which both protects our interests and ideals, while also allowing for technological innovation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kellie,</p>
<p>A very reasoned and well written post &#8211; excellent work.</p>
<p>I agree that we need to show we are up to the challenge of putting together a policy which both protects our interests and ideals, while also allowing for technological innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#8217;m against toolbars, but if they&#8217;re here to stay, I&#8217;m glad Brian is the one discussing it and trying to set the bar.&quot; 
 
Exactly my sentiment!!!  Brian&#039;s ethics, fairness, intelligence and level headed reason have proven themselves to me many, many times. 
 
I don&#039;t like toolbars at all, but I can envision Brian setting things in motion at ShareASale that could set a new example for the other networks that currently litter their clients (and wreck their ROI) with every cookie-setting pilferizer (thieving machine) under the sun. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I&rsquo;m against toolbars, but if they&rsquo;re here to stay, I&rsquo;m glad Brian is the one discussing it and trying to set the bar.&quot;</p>
<p>Exactly my sentiment!!!  Brian&#039;s ethics, fairness, intelligence and level headed reason have proven themselves to me many, many times.</p>
<p>I don&#039;t like toolbars at all, but I can envision Brian setting things in motion at ShareASale that could set a new example for the other networks that currently litter their clients (and wreck their ROI) with every cookie-setting pilferizer (thieving machine) under the sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno Prussakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geno Prussakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I plan to be present at the ShareASale&#039;s Roundtable on toolbars, and I applaud Brian&#039;s openness. It will be interesting to see which way all of this develops.  
 
Your idea of a &quot;working policy that would address how software can be legitimately used within the affiliate channel&quot; is one I fully stand behind. It is indeed critical to have an industry-wide policy like this (as until we have one, compliance will keep on meaning different things for different networks). The problem, of course, is the fact that there is too much money generated by the unethical adware affiliates (btw, what are the numbers now, Kellie?), and the affiliate networks are partaking of a substantial chunk of that money (is it 30%? the question, of course, is a rhetoric one), which pushes the ethics from the way of the money-making. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I plan to be present at the ShareASale&#039;s Roundtable on toolbars, and I applaud Brian&#039;s openness. It will be interesting to see which way all of this develops. </p>
<p>Your idea of a &quot;working policy that would address how software can be legitimately used within the affiliate channel&quot; is one I fully stand behind. It is indeed critical to have an industry-wide policy like this (as until we have one, compliance will keep on meaning different things for different networks). The problem, of course, is the fact that there is too much money generated by the unethical adware affiliates (btw, what are the numbers now, Kellie?), and the affiliate networks are partaking of a substantial chunk of that money (is it 30%? the question, of course, is a rhetoric one), which pushes the ethics from the way of the money-making.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Rice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure this will make for an interesting meeting, and I would much rather have Brian organizing this than any other network. 
 
I have my doubts that anything accomplished there will have any impact whatsoever on merchants or affiliates residing at other networks, as there seems to be a mindset amongst some that it is okay to push the edge of legality and morality until a position becomes untenable. 
 
Yet, I think it is a good thing that SAS spells out precisely what their position is on toolbars, that is something that I wish every network would do properly.  Whether I agree with their conclusions or not is another matter entirely, but at least I will have the information that I need to act in my own interests. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure this will make for an interesting meeting, and I would much rather have Brian organizing this than any other network.</p>
<p>I have my doubts that anything accomplished there will have any impact whatsoever on merchants or affiliates residing at other networks, as there seems to be a mindset amongst some that it is okay to push the edge of legality and morality until a position becomes untenable.</p>
<p>Yet, I think it is a good thing that SAS spells out precisely what their position is on toolbars, that is something that I wish every network would do properly.  Whether I agree with their conclusions or not is another matter entirely, but at least I will have the information that I need to act in my own interests.</p>
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