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Porter, Boyd Give Exclusive & Revealing Audio Interview

April 7th, 2006 by Jeff Molander

Wayne Porter and Chris Boyd (aka PaperGhost) get paid to spend their days infiltrating rings of real life cyber criminals… all the while risking they’ll get caught by the thieves themselves.

How must it feel to gather evidence on such bottom-feeders and then turn it over to States’ Attorney General’s offices and/or Federal Authorities?

Click below to hear a short teaser and join me on Thursday April 13th at Thoughtshapers.com/podcasts (and here at Revenews) as I present part one of a two part series on the Spyware Warriors and the Digital Underground.

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Two powerful and attractive men!

Wayne Porter said:

I think Boyd looks like Harry Potter as he ages. No kidding- put glasses on him and he is Potter.

Mike Hyland said:

Couldn’t think of a better pair of Adwhore gunslingers to bust some caps on the underbelly of the affiliate marketing industry. Radio shows and hopefully some TV time on talk shows would be great. Only way someone can ethically make money in affiliate marketing will be determined by closing down the forced cookie setters, firing the tainted/lazy staff running the network in-house AM programs, and allowing the victimized shopper a say in network management decisions.

In all their work these 2 failed to leverage the power of the real victims. Those subjected to having Adwhore enema tubes shoved up their butts, then subject to so many cookied Ads their eye balls blink Brands while drinking in a coffee shop. Invite Spitzer to the next radio show… he needs the votes…LOL.

Hi Mike,

You said: “In all their work these 2 failed to leverage the power of the real victims.”

Respectfully, your statment is innacurate and unfair. Porter and Boyds PRIMARY ROLE is to gather detailed evidence, admissable in a court of law, and pass same to the AGs and the Feds. The same can be said for Edelman and a few other high level researchers which I appolagize for not recalling.

Next it’s up to YOU and ME to interface with consumers/surfers, Networks, The Press and anyone else who will listen and incourage them to not only take precautions but file compliants and or conduct their business in not only a legal manner but one which is morally and ethically sound.

The “effort” requires numerous talents on many levels and it’s unrealistic and unfair to assume that Porter, Boyd, Edelman and others of their ilk can do everything with respect to your comment which I quoted.

I would encourage YOU to undertake this role if you aren’t presently doing same. :)

Respectfully,
:)

Mike Hyland said:

Steve the only reason I even began to post again at Revenews was because of Wayne Porter’s blogs, exposing the the sleazy underbelly of the powerful controlling commission flows in this industry. For years Revenews lay dormant as the informative revealing flame threads dried up. Those trying to NOT reveal the adjenda of Super Affiliate cookie stuffing -forced click BHO’s – and SEM cookie washing campaigns, run on perloined clickstream datamined insider info, by those wishing to marginalize domain bound affiliates.

Prior to Porter this place was for stroking affiliate event planners and promoting incentive consulting gigs with no concern for putting any value into a physical click …from a shoppers viewpoint. Now Revenews has some meat for the SERPs, and draw to those not compelled to pat/protect the backs of those using cookie cannons with an Adwhore mindset.

I’m all for cheerleading Porter, and any other Anti-Spyware/Adware OUTERS, getting their message out to the general public through major media and law suit exposure. Stir up the outrage inside hundreds of millions of victims of S/W affiliate marketing practices. Expose the money trail fueling the infestations right back to the network power brokers. Fire up the voters demanding real action from their US and local politicians to stop the exploiting of their family and office computers, by those with an unethical advertising mindset. Only then will all networks be forced to ban any type of forced click cookie setting activity across the board.

“Prior to Porter this place was for stroking affiliate event planners and promoting incentive consulting gigs with no concern for putting any value into a physical click …from a shoppers viewpoint.”

Who you talking about there, Mike? Pretty much drags everyone at Revenews through the mud doesn’t it? We’re lovers not fighters. How about you? :)

Paperghost said:

“In all their work these 2 failed to leverage the power of the real victims.”

Oof, my children’s children will be feeling that one! :P

With the greatest of respect, I’m not sure what that means exactly…there’s been plenty of occasions where I did just that and made “bad things” go boom. Some of those pieces of work are now being used all over the place, from being referenced in ASC complaints submitted to the FTC, to the recent New York Vs Direct Revenue case (Document 75, kids). There’s only realistically so much you can do with a Blog, but the trickle-down effect detonates the required explosives eventually as we are now seeing. Look how many researchers (and pieces of research) are laced throughout the Direct Revenue case, for example. It’s pretty awesome, and prevents an incredibly damaging account of their practices.

I’m sure Wayne could say the same of his work, too.

And…this is important…there is an awful lot more work that I do, that you will most likely never hear of. Shutting down Botnets “off radar”, helping to get illegal sites shut down, tracking down hackers to their home address and making it clear that they should perhaps stop now or face the consequences…all these things do indeed “harness the power of the victims”, because it’s them I’m doing this for.

Never forget, the whole reason I got into fighting the online tide of murk is specifically *because* someone very close to me had their life ruined by some idiot hacker, wanting to make easy money from the Adware system. I’m trying to make sure what happened to her, never happens to anyone else. With that in mind, everything I do is because of “the power of the real victim”, to some degree.

Paperghost said:

…and by “ASC”, I did of course mean the CDT. Whatever, they both rock :D

[...] Dana- let me recommend two books my mentor recommended to me a decade ago: “The Selfish Gene” by Dawkins and “Media Virus” by Rushkoff. This should give you a meta-blueprint for the construction of a media virus or “viral marketing”. Good case study would be The Blair Witch movie by Haxan Films or see the story-telling aspects in this post on Eldtrich Errors or you might study some of the techniques Paperghost and I used in the security field. [...]

[...] this post on Eldtrich Errors or you might study some of the techniques Paperghost and I used in the security field. (Paperghost is a natural entertainer where every case we investigate was a play and every [...]

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