Exclusive Interview with Second Life Liberation Army Leader (SLLA)

As a security researcher and e-commerce consultant I became more intrigued as larger brands moved into the Second Life environment and now unhappy avatars (digital representations of real people) have bonded together to fight against an establishment they feel is unfair. I can understand this backlash, but I won’t draw analogies here, or make overt conclusions, or take sides, but leave it to the reader to decide or investigate on their own. However does “The Grid” and its economics and politics mimic real life- much like some strange phantasmagormic mirror?. Already we have seen dDos attacks, and now attacks that mimic real life…what does this all mean? Now and for our future?

The SLLA site(s) at googlepages.com and Blogspot.

From the Wikipedia:

Second Life Liberation Army (SLLA) was formed as the ‘in-world’ wing of a national liberation movement within the on-line environment Second Life. The movement contends that universal suffrage should be established within Second Life immediately.

The SLLA is believed to be the first virtual national liberation movement of its kind seeking political rights for virtual characters known as avatars. The size of the SLLA movement is unknown but is suspected to be less than 10.

To date the SLLA has conducted one protest against a virtual representation of the clothing store, ‘American Apparel’. The group termed this a “military operation.” According to Second Life residents, this took the form of shooting potential customers at the Second Life American Apparel store, causing the customers to be knocked out of the area, thus preventing purchases. The owner of this area quickly disabled the scripts that allowed this to occur. The political campaign initially gained momentum due to Second Life media outlets reporting on their actions but appears to have plateaued as of November, 2006.

According to the movement’s blog, SLLA is now offering a bounty to attack certain areas and players.

This interview was conducted with the leader of the Second Life Liberation Army (SLLA). I do not now their name or whereabouts, but the individual agreed to answer some of my questions. With the permission of the subject I have made small spelling edits that do not in anyway change the substance of the exchange.

Wayne Porter’s Interview with the Second Life Liberation Army 12.04.2006

Porter: 1) What is the purpose behind the Second Life Liberation Army and how old is it?

SLLA: The SLLA exists to highlight and agitate for Political Rights within Second Life. The movement was founded in April 2006 but found its true meaning following the changes made to SL by LL (Linden Labs) when they made possible the creation of unverified accounts. This attracted a lot of covert support from longer-term residents who wanted some change but didn’t want to go public — so they provided us with some funding.

Porter: 2) Specifically what problem(s) in Second Life do the SLLA wish to call attention too?

SLLA: As more and more people have significant interests in SL it amazes me that they are not looking for some kind of protections. Our view is that the only way to achieve this is through some form of nascent political involvement.

Porter: 3) How big is the organization? Is it slowing or growing in momentum?

SLLA: Ha – well I think the SLLA mirrors SL in some ways – people try us on and then disappear never to be heard of again. We have probably around a dozen active participants who can be relied on for ideas. With regard to momentum I feel we, the ‘military’ side of the campaign, have slowed and is in need of new ideas.

Porter: 4) Are members newer users of the platform or are they veterans who started early?

SLLA: Veterens.

Porter: 5) Do you feel the current tactics have had any impact on your goals?

SLLA: Well, the original tactics and target selection met our immediate goal or getting the movement recognized. Now we need to decide the best course in order to achieve the goal of political representation.

Porter: 6) Have you tried alternative routes to get your message heard by Linden Labs?

SLLA: No – We don’t believe we have the currency with which to negotiate.

Porter: If so, how have they been met?

N/A- no answer- see above.

Porter: 8) Have any members suffered punitive damages due to attacks on brands or stores in Second Life? e.g. Police Blotter?

SLLA: One member has been banned from midnight city – but we try and keep our attacks proportional.

Porter

9) What is your ultimate hope for Second Life and Avatar Rights?

SLLA: We would like consultation. Simply there exists within SL the ability to poll every member on significant changes to the world. We would like to see a refurendum on the un-verifed accounts. But implementing some kind of voting would be our first aim.

Porter: 10) There have been rumors of the SLLA being behind the “Grey Goo”. True or False?

SLLA: False.

Porter: 11) What comprises a typical attack or disruption going beyond the incident like the one at Reebok?

SLLA: We are currently experimenting with leaderless resistance, in that the targets are selected off-line and then volunteers are free to construct their own operations. We are also considering a virtual kidnap operation but we haven’t worked the details of that out.

At this point their leader made it very clear all the fighting was taking place on “The Grid”- not in real life, but avatar to avatar. Thus a “kidnapping” is not one in the physical sense, and he and I both felt that should be made clear.

This concludes this segment with the SLLA, and I hope to have more in the future as these virtual worlds flourish and collide- extensions of the Internet and post-human lives, but it brings up a number of perplexing questions that I will let readers ponder.

On “The Grid” or “Off The Grid” human behavior, politics, social habits, even the economy seem to revolve in a similiar fashion as Real Life- even though in Second Life many of the constraints that hold us back are stripped away by technology. e.g. a wheel-chair bound person can fly in the world of Second Life.

It is snowing outside, white snow and pure snow and it makes me ponder…like a quiet blanket it evokes questions I mmust ask myself and pose to others…

- What can all the parties learn from this?

- What could the world learn from this?

- What could history teach us about this?

- Even in this new and incredible terrain are we destined to walk down the very same paths we have for centuries?

I have no crystal ball, and the snow casts no reflections…

  • MSGiro Grosso

    Thanks Wayne for making contact with the SLLA and bringing the dialogue to a neutral location. As a developer in SL who is going to be responsible for bringing many brands into SL I’m sure the big red Target (not the brand) will be on my back as well, although we feel like a fair amount of our clients will be well received. We’re starting off promoting an indie film. If you attack an indie film then the entire population of SL becomes a target to the SLLA.

    My only issue with them is that they are a leaderless organization. In the history of mankind I feel like there have been very few liberation armies who did not have a polarizing leader that people rallied around or against. The modern day comparison to this is the insurgency in Iraq where Iraqi’s are killing Iraqi’s. Do they want to be compared to that, even in a virtual world? I admit the comparison may be a bit harsh, but their message treats SL like it’s a life and death situation so I feel comfortable comparing it to a real world atrocity just to add some level of context.

    What I don’t understand is that SL gives you to ability, as a “land” owner to set up your own covenant that governs your space. Why not scoop up a bunch of space and apply rules/laws that you deem appropriate and let everyone else decide what they want to do? Isn’t the whole idea of SL and the real world to live harmoniously regardless of differences? I give the SL community credit, because they work hard at trying to make the metaverse a little bit better than the real world.

    The SLLA blog has no comment feature and no ability to email them directly to join in on the discussion, which I’m more than interested in doing. How are we possibly going to sustain the conversation if the communication is only coming from one direction?

  • http://http:/www.wayneporter.com Wayne Porter

    MsGiro,

    Please feel free to contact me at wporter@gmail.com, I am curious as to your indie endeavors having dealt in that realm.

    I did elaborate a bit more about it on my personal blog

    http://www.wayneporter.com/2006/12/04/exclusive-interview-with-second-life-liberation-army-reflections-on-snow/

    History- repeats self, regardless of medium it seems.

  • http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/ Plot Tracer

    SLLU Press Release 18/1/07

    While SLLU welcomes the decision of the FN to move from Porcupine,
    this has been to the detriment of the residents of Axel (another PG area).
    It has broken their peace and tranquility. This fascist group – one so
    abhorrent that the mainstream conservative party in France urged its
    supporters to vote socialist in order to ensure the FN didn’t reach any
    where near to victory in their last elections – has set up recruiting in
    world. This group is a RL fascist group with links to the very founders
    of fascism.

    SLLU, also condemn this racist party for using SL as a place to recruit – the dissemination of discrimatory racist hate propaganda should be viewed as a violation of SL’s community standards’

    We call on Axel residents to complain about this cabal and their sullying
    of the tranquil and beautiful area that was once Axel, and join our
    campaign to rid SL of racism. SLLU support residents in their wish to
    rid themselves of this group and the protests that have followed.

    SLLU can promise residents that our organization has no want to stay
    in Axel any longer than it takes to rid residents of the FN (who are at
    present trying to buy more Axel land).

    We reiterate our call on the Lindens to ban this group from PG areas.

    SLLU.
    http://slleftunity.blogspot.com/

  • http://www.wayneporter.com/2007/01/20/follow-up-comment-on-slla-interview-from-msgiro-grosso/ Opinions From My Spa

    Follow up Comment on SLLA Interview from MSGiro Grosso

  • Neil Claxton

    Neil Claxton, President of the SL Anti Communist group asks:

    The SLLA sounds like a group with a confused agenda. if fighting fascism is good, then fighting communism/socialism is good too.

    You call yourself an army and a military group and urge armed resistance, but organize anti war protests.

    Communism isn’t known for it’s support of personal, or political rights, so the fact that the group is very socialist is confusing.

    Communist governments are exactly like LL, so why are you trying to make LL look bad so you can get “consultation” from LL?

    maybe some people who aren’t out to disrupt the peace and quiet are more deserving of consultation.

    Please IM me and explain the convergance of “democratic self-government” and strong socialist ideals.

    This sounds like a power grab.

  • http://slleftunity.blogspot.com Plot Tracer

    I think Neil Claxton is confused over the SLLA and the SLLU. They are separate organisations. The SLLU is a Left Unity group – which does not comre from just one perspective of the left. It has many people with differing left opinions in its ranks from Marxist, Freirian, differing shades of Trotskyism and Green left perspectives.

    The SLLA, on the other hand, has no clear left agenda, and in fact the SLLA can accomodate right anti-globalists. – in fact in this article the “leader” of SLLA does not offer any political perspective at all.

    The SLLU, it is true, do not have a leader – but an active “core” which is fluid and new members seem to come and go from that. The SLLU is trying to move towards full democracy – but this is proving difficult in the SL environment at present with so many people wanting to wreck what is being put into place.

    The SLLU does however have Aims and Principles and a charter under which members can unite – these are to be published this week on their blog and inworld newsletter (SLLU Voice).

    And true (if this is what you are getting at) – it is anti-capitalist.

  • IrishHitman

    Politics/Religion + Games = Breakdown of any form of entertainment….

    @ SLLUguy: I commend your actions against the FN/Le Pen scumbags. However, you should bring the situation up with Linden, as obviously you cannot stop them alone.

    @ Anti-Communist Guy: I commend your actions too, Communism is the extreme of socialism, and as such, is flawed due to human nature. But just because people are left wing, does not imply they want communism to rain supreme. Please keep that in mind.

    @ LL:
    Hire loads of CS:S players like me to come in packing more guns than the Springfield Armoury, coded to send all targets to a virtual prision, and we’ll wipe the floor with the noobs XD

  • Colbyson Kyomoon

    My name is Colbyson Kyomoon (SL) and I’m an SLPD SWAT Officer. I just wanted to say that due to SLLA’s massive attacks on major companies, SLPD SWAT is patoling all major SIMs. As I do believe that there is nothing wrong with voting on SL, but the way the way companies are being targeted is just not right. Non of the companies want anything to do with SLLA. I can understand attacking Linden Sims and Government sims (even though if I saw someone attacking one, I would have to shoot you), but why civilian targets?