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		<title>By: Darsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, you guys are really technical.  I used my Yahoo account to help the Earth Day event in Bali, Indonesia earlier this year, maybe over 4 days, and sent out in invitation to contacts, NGOs, businesses to support it.   
 
I&#039;ve been &#039;outcast&#039; as SPAMmer ever since and have to enter that stupid code after every email.  We use it occasionally and this is flatly ridiculous.  I&#039;ve reported it and replied to their requests for information and over 4 months nothing has improved.  And all our outgoing mails go into recepient&#039;s SPAM folder - what the ...!  We started using Yahoo because our domain name emails were going into SPAM folders.  Then this.  Is all linked in some way?  
 
It got worse when I realized that my Bali husband&#039;s email - never sent bulk, not linked in any way to our business address (except perhaps sent in one email) also requires this - this is flat ABUSE by yahoo (notice no capital Y because they&#039;re no longer my favorite).   
 
Is this prejudice against Indonesia?  
 
Can anyone help?  This is abusive, ridiculous, and unprofessional on yahoo&#039;s part. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, you guys are really technical.  I used my Yahoo account to help the Earth Day event in Bali, Indonesia earlier this year, maybe over 4 days, and sent out in invitation to contacts, NGOs, businesses to support it.   </p>
<p>I&#039;ve been &#039;outcast&#039; as SPAMmer ever since and have to enter that stupid code after every email.  We use it occasionally and this is flatly ridiculous.  I&#039;ve reported it and replied to their requests for information and over 4 months nothing has improved.  And all our outgoing mails go into recepient&#039;s SPAM folder &#8211; what the &#8230;!  We started using Yahoo because our domain name emails were going into SPAM folders.  Then this.  Is all linked in some way?  </p>
<p>It got worse when I realized that my Bali husband&#039;s email &#8211; never sent bulk, not linked in any way to our business address (except perhaps sent in one email) also requires this &#8211; this is flat ABUSE by yahoo (notice no capital Y because they&#039;re no longer my favorite).   </p>
<p>Is this prejudice against Indonesia?  </p>
<p>Can anyone help?  This is abusive, ridiculous, and unprofessional on yahoo&#039;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: uioipon</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/search-engine-marketing/my-life-as-a-spammer-or-so-says-yahoo/#comment-27311</link>
		<dc:creator>uioipon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sucks, McAfee isn&#039;t that good of an anti-virus program, there are much better out there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sucks, McAfee isn&#039;t that good of an anti-virus program, there are much better out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Buckley</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/search-engine-marketing/my-life-as-a-spammer-or-so-says-yahoo/#comment-27070</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Buckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie, 
 
You say  McAfee has actually been pretty good about fixing this. They have agreed to retest and I will hear about the results in about 8 weeks.?! They damage your reputation and wast your time and, even if they do remove your warning that&#039;s good enough? 
 
That&#039;s sort of like the McAfee limo speeding by your house smashes into your car legally parked on the street and then they tell you that when they speed by in 8 weeks, if they don&#039;t hit your car again, they will forget the whole thing! 
 
I would hope that we could find a way to hold incompetent arrogant corporations more responsible.  I would still support you in any legislative or legal remedy. At the very least I would shine the light of day and keep telling the story as publicly as possible and not settle for less than an apology, some sort of restitution such as an on line retraction and a promise to change their policy, as you suggest, 	o contact the site if spam has been received and help to fix the problem, instead of ruining the reputation of good people. 
 
Good luck and keep us posted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie,</p>
<p>You say  McAfee has actually been pretty good about fixing this. They have agreed to retest and I will hear about the results in about 8 weeks.?! They damage your reputation and wast your time and, even if they do remove your warning that&#039;s good enough?</p>
<p>That&#039;s sort of like the McAfee limo speeding by your house smashes into your car legally parked on the street and then they tell you that when they speed by in 8 weeks, if they don&#039;t hit your car again, they will forget the whole thing!</p>
<p>I would hope that we could find a way to hold incompetent arrogant corporations more responsible.  I would still support you in any legislative or legal remedy. At the very least I would shine the light of day and keep telling the story as publicly as possible and not settle for less than an apology, some sort of restitution such as an on line retraction and a promise to change their policy, as you suggest, 	o contact the site if spam has been received and help to fix the problem, instead of ruining the reputation of good people.</p>
<p>Good luck and keep us posted.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackie hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David &amp; Jim! 
I thought I give you an update.  McAfee has actually been pretty good about fixing this.  They have agreed to retest and I will hear about the results in about 8 weeks. 
 
It&#039;s going to be a very embarassing 8 weeks!  I&#039;ve subscribed to my own opt in just to be sure that all is good...although I know it is. 
 
It would be a much better service if they would contact the site if spam has been received and help to fix the problem, instead of ruining the reputation of good people.  
 
I&#039;ll let you know how it goes... :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David &amp; Jim!</p>
<p>I thought I give you an update.  McAfee has actually been pretty good about fixing this.  They have agreed to retest and I will hear about the results in about 8 weeks.</p>
<p>It&#039;s going to be a very embarassing 8 weeks!  I&#039;ve subscribed to my own opt in just to be sure that all is good&#8230;although I know it is.</p>
<p>It would be a much better service if they would contact the site if spam has been received and help to fix the problem, instead of ruining the reputation of good people. </p>
<p>I&#039;ll let you know how it goes&#8230; <img src='http://www.revenews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Buckley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Buckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie, 
 
Sorry to hear that you are still dealing with Yahoo/McAfee abuse.  They have left me alone since 2008 but it still makes me angry when I think about it. Yahoo and McAfee - maybe most corporations - are as large as some countries and run like North Korea - the right to vote only by stockholders, all power from a central committee, no balance of powers, no presumption of innocence, no transparency. 
 
David Lewis&#039; observation that the problem may go away when Microsoft takes over may be correct but, again we are relying on the benevolence of a big corporation - an even bigger corporation - and can only hope that they treat us fairly. 
 
I&#039;d like to bring some accountability and the light of day to Yahoo and McAfee and even Microsoft. Toward that end, I would be happy to lobby elected officials or join a class action suit to address these corporate abuses. At the very least those of us who have been wronged should have a way to get straight answers and resolution short of a very expensive lawsuit. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear that you are still dealing with Yahoo/McAfee abuse.  They have left me alone since 2008 but it still makes me angry when I think about it. Yahoo and McAfee &#8211; maybe most corporations &#8211; are as large as some countries and run like North Korea &#8211; the right to vote only by stockholders, all power from a central committee, no balance of powers, no presumption of innocence, no transparency.</p>
<p>David Lewis&#039; observation that the problem may go away when Microsoft takes over may be correct but, again we are relying on the benevolence of a big corporation &#8211; an even bigger corporation &#8211; and can only hope that they treat us fairly.</p>
<p>I&#039;d like to bring some accountability and the light of day to Yahoo and McAfee and even Microsoft. Toward that end, I would be happy to lobby elected officials or join a class action suit to address these corporate abuses. At the very least those of us who have been wronged should have a way to get straight answers and resolution short of a very expensive lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.revenews.com/search-engine-marketing/my-life-as-a-spammer-or-so-says-yahoo/#comment-27021</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie, I&#039;m sorry to hear that you are having to deal with it. I can&#039;t comment about it much. What I can say is that at a minimum the Yahoo part should go away this year when Microsoft takes over Yahoo&#039;s search results. That still leaves you with the McAfee Red Alert. Try contacting McAfee and see if they will retest. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie, I&#039;m sorry to hear that you are having to deal with it. I can&#039;t comment about it much. What I can say is that at a minimum the Yahoo part should go away this year when Microsoft takes over Yahoo&#039;s search results. That still leaves you with the McAfee Red Alert. Try contacting McAfee and see if they will retest.</p>
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		<title>By: jackie hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackie hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here it is, July 2010 and the problem still exits. I&#039;m another victom. As others, I contacted McAfee &amp; was told to contact Yahoo.  Contacted Yahoo &amp; was told to contact McAfee. I just have a tiny part time home business and have only been using the internet a short time.  These e-mails are supposedly from Nov/Dec &#039;09 and Feb. &#039;10...this is July.   
Has anyone found any other information or ways to fix this problem? Anyone have a contact that will get action? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here it is, July 2010 and the problem still exits. I&#039;m another victom. As others, I contacted McAfee &amp; was told to contact Yahoo.  Contacted Yahoo &amp; was told to contact McAfee. I just have a tiny part time home business and have only been using the internet a short time.  These e-mails are supposedly from Nov/Dec &#039;09 and Feb. &#039;10&#8230;this is July.  </p>
<p>Has anyone found any other information or ways to fix this problem? Anyone have a contact that will get action?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this post, but my experience has pretty much been the same as everyone else here. Just without the resolution. It&#039;s been unresolved for a few months after McAfee mistakenly marked one of our downloads as invalid. I&#039;ve contacted them multiple times in every way possible and only received one arrogant return letter almost taunting us to sue them. 
 
It seems to me that McAfee would do better to remove the service rather than provide blatant misinformation to users who trust them. Thanks for the insight into McAfee&#039;s and Yahoo&#039;s business practices. Funny, I trusted McAfee before. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this post, but my experience has pretty much been the same as everyone else here. Just without the resolution. It&#039;s been unresolved for a few months after McAfee mistakenly marked one of our downloads as invalid. I&#039;ve contacted them multiple times in every way possible and only received one arrogant return letter almost taunting us to sue them.</p>
<p>It seems to me that McAfee would do better to remove the service rather than provide blatant misinformation to users who trust them. Thanks for the insight into McAfee&#039;s and Yahoo&#039;s business practices. Funny, I trusted McAfee before.</p>
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		<title>By: Trinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t like we have a choice about showing up on Yahoo search results.It would be better to NOT show up on their search engine than to have the warning. My site snowwowl.com comes up on the first page for many searches, but what good is it to have a good site, that has information, that people have been coming to for 7 years, if the first thing they see is &quot;Potentially harmful websites&quot; and then &quot;warning:unsolicited emails&quot;. We have spent years building our status in the search engines, to have Yahoo/Mac Afee tear it down. My site is non-commercial. I don&#039;t have the funds to hire a lawyer. 
 
Yahoo has marked all 1700+ pages on the search results. Pages that have no email addresses, pages that don&#039;t have forms or even links to forms. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#039;t like we have a choice about showing up on Yahoo search results.It would be better to NOT show up on their search engine than to have the warning. My site snowwowl.com comes up on the first page for many searches, but what good is it to have a good site, that has information, that people have been coming to for 7 years, if the first thing they see is &quot;Potentially harmful websites&quot; and then &quot;warning:unsolicited emails&quot;. We have spent years building our status in the search engines, to have Yahoo/Mac Afee tear it down. My site is non-commercial. I don&#039;t have the funds to hire a lawyer.</p>
<p>Yahoo has marked all 1700+ pages on the search results. Pages that have no email addresses, pages that don&#039;t have forms or even links to forms.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Vandenbergh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie Vandenbergh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my mind this feature of mcafee and yahoo is not  all that great if it was working properly. I don&#039;t see how it helps either one of them make much more money. It just can&#039;t lead to much $$$$ on their side. It seems to me to be all political. It&#039;s just a shame when companies get too policitical and can&#039;t get out of the mess. The system they have is obviously not working. They don&#039;t have a way to support it. No one knows what to say. It&#039;s a round about. I can&#039;t see how they would be able to fix a political problem this big and between two companies. Seems the best thing would be to just take it down. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my mind this feature of mcafee and yahoo is not  all that great if it was working properly. I don&#039;t see how it helps either one of them make much more money. It just can&#039;t lead to much $$$$ on their side. It seems to me to be all political. It&#039;s just a shame when companies get too policitical and can&#039;t get out of the mess. The system they have is obviously not working. They don&#039;t have a way to support it. No one knows what to say. It&#039;s a round about. I can&#039;t see how they would be able to fix a political problem this big and between two companies. Seems the best thing would be to just take it down.</p>
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