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Ad$ense: Threat or Savior for Publishers

June 14th, 2005 by David Lewis

The second half of Stephen Messer’s lunch talk at Affiliate Summit was a discussion on the effects of AdSense on affiliates. This is a hot topic and I am glad to see that it is getting focus at the highest levels of affiliate networks. Lunch wasn’t the place to highlight the issues as I see them so I will take it as an invitation to continue the debate.

AdSense is the best thing since sliced bread for affiliates


While I like that Stephen raised the issue in a public forum with all possible affiliate constituencies in attendance, I disagree with his premise and conclusion.

Stephen’s main points were:

  • Google disintermediates publishers (affiliates)
  • Google gives the same results to all publishers
  • Google does not give transparency into the revenue share it gives publishers
  • Google does not give information on customers

Read that list and change “Google” to “The average merchant”. That sounds more true to me.

Disintermediation: Merchants have been disintermediating affiliates for years. If we send a customer to a merchant and the user makes a purchase, the merchant is counting on retaining the customer and sending e-mails to the customer in order to get the customer to go to the merchant directly. I have an interesting e-mail that Amazon sent me last week stating precisely that. Then there are merchants like Buy.com that have decided to become affiliates and send e-mails to customers to get them to go to Yub.com, Buy.com’s shopping mall full of affiliate links.

Same Links: Google’s AdSense evaluates each page, discerns the most appropriate keyword(s) from the content on that page and serves results based on that. Affiliate networks allow affiliates to choose from a list of links that are the same for all affiliates or use datafeeds that are the same for all affiliates. In some cases, there are special links or coupons for top performing affiliates (and, yes, we love those!) If you are thinking that you have no control over the results on your page, publish better content.

Revenue Share: It is true that Google doesn’t give the revenue share percentage but it’s not hard to figure out if you really want to. On the affiliate side, there is no transparency in VIP commissions. This is one of the reasons for the rise of CPA networks (the other great risk to the Big 3 networks). CPA networks give “near VIP commissions” from the first sale. A small affiliate can do well with most merchants in CPA networks. The big networks generally don’t help small affiliates. Mid-tier affiliates get some help and get VIP commissions on some programs. The top tier lives large. (If you don’t know about VIP commissions, get out of affiliate marketing.)

Customer Information: Google gives us no customer information. Linkshare gives more customer information than any network. That said, Google allows publsihers to use channels. Publishers can measure if affiliate offers or AdSense performs better for any given merchant.

The missing piece of the argument is that AdSense is supplemental to affiliate marketing for publishers (note that I am calling us publishers here because this choice makes us all more than merely affiliates). Merchants need to earn their placement on publishers pages. The days of affililates being the cheap source of performance-based traffic may come to an end. Google pays on the click. Publishers do not need to wait for the merchant to convert the user.

Competition Grows

If it weren’t enough that AdSense were competing for space on publishers’ pages with affiliate links, Yahoo is in beta with the Yahoo Publishers Network (YPN) and MSN must be working on a similar service for its soon to launch paid search network. Even if Google doesn’t release the revenue share numbers, the amount paid to publishers will have to increase once competition sets in. The market will get very interesting. Google may get hit by a bommerang.

What about eBay Power Seller

Stephen used the example of eBay growing its business with power sellers and later cutting them out. I don’t think that this is a parallel that can be drawn at this point. Publishers are not dependent on Google as their sole “storefront”. As publishers, we have our own sites. I think that the argument does apply to search arbitrage where Google did exactly the same thing to these people who relied on Google AdWords as their “storefronts”.

Shopping.com

Earlier at lunch, Stpehen mentioned the success that many affiliates are seeing including Shopping.com’s sale to eBay for $600 million. YES! [We all have a goal now.] Google accounted for 42% of Shopping.com’s revenue. Google was Shopping.com’s single largest vendor, far above the 10% that makes it significant for accounting purposes. A large part of Shopping’s valuation was based on revenue from Google. I’ll be thrilled when AdSense hits 20% or 30% of our revenue.

Again, thank you Steve for setting the framework for the debate. It is important for all of us to get a better understanding of the implications of contextual search on affiliate marketing.

Obviously there are differing views on this topic. I’m sure that both of us have missed some points. The comment lines are open. Servers are waiting for your comments.

8 Comments

Kyle Evans said:

David:

I spoke with several publishers in Vegas that were getting significantly better returns from their AdSense programs than they were from affiliate links or other CPA networks. This might be dumb money at work and it might be temporary but it’s no surprise that these publishers were also giving an increasing amount of inventory over to Google. However, I couldn’t find a single merchant, affiliate manager or technology provider that would admit to any falloff in the affiliate channel as a result of this shift in publisher behavior. In fact, Stephen’s lunch talk was the only evidence (albeit indirect) I found that suggests the affiliate industry is getting pressured by AdSense. I spoke with a few presenters (Rob Key of Converseon and Peter Hershberg of Reprise Media) who had pretty bleak outlooks for the affiliate marketing industry due to expected competition from Google, Yahoo! and Microsoft. You could hear a pin drop in their conference session when they let this thesis fly. How do you and others feel about the long-term outlook for the affiliate marketing industry? If you agree that the affiliate platforms will eventually get beat up, when do you think they will start feeling the pain?

Beth Kirsch said:

Kyle,

We have been talking about this on ReveNews for almost a year now.

I think David did a great, great job outlining some issues.

Here are three pieces we have written about this.

http://www.revenews.com/bethkirsch/archives/000164.html

http://www.revenews.com/wayneporter/archives/000165.html

http://www.revenews.com/bethkirsch/archives/000519.html

I think David hit a home run with his latest entry on this.

I think I might blog about this, so let me save the rest of these thoughts and think them through more.

Cheers,

Beth

Eddie Wilson said:

Google can pay decent revenue right now because the buyers have no idea they are being shafted.

Tons of new companies have jumped into paid search and can’t tell a paid click from a content click from their own rear ends.

THIS is why Google doesn’t let you bid separately on content.

Once the buyers start seeing the real numbers, and people start figuring out that content clicks are worth a TON less that search clicks, Google won’t be able to pay websites as much for their clicks.

WEBMASTERS, YOU ARE WARNED.

Google is doing a loss leader for now. Adsense rates will go down DRAMATICALLY as the world wises up.

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