Comments on: Questionable Business Practices in Affiliate Marketing Part 278 http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/ Discussion of Online Marketing, SEM, Social Media, Mobile and Video, Micro-Content, and Affiliate Marketing Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Communication all th http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-23393 Communication all th Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:10:42 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-23393 It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments. I think the large programs do in fact follow these things as I do. Although I haven’t worked with PJ, I have heard Kris speak at a number of events and respect his work and he should post here and speak on the topic often. The fact is we all Google alerts and general subscriptions to the blogs for our industry. It gives us the insight into what happens to other partners. It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments. I think the large programs do in fact follow these things as I do. Although I haven’t worked with PJ, I have heard Kris speak at a number of events and respect his work and he should post here and speak on the topic often. The fact is we all Google alerts and general subscriptions to the blogs for our industry. It gives us the insight into what happens to other partners.

]]> By: Print This! » Cribbed Content for March 7th http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11814 Print This! » Cribbed Content for March 7th Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:06:55 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11814 [...] affiliate marketing industry is all a flutter with a cat fight between n00b network Pepperjam & veteran Commission Junction. I think that if the accusations [...] [...] affiliate marketing industry is all a flutter with a cat fight between n00b network Pepperjam & veteran Commission Junction. I think that if the accusations [...]

]]> By: Holly Preuss http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11567 Holly Preuss Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:57:23 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11567 Hey guys- I just reread my post and Shawn's comments. I meant Sam not Shawn. http://geekcast.fm/wp-content/uploads/pjpodcast.mp3 I think I need to do a better job proofreading if I am going to post. I'll up my caffeine intake and all will be good. Ok, Ok, I am very interested. (Kris-I will try and reach out to you for an introduction next week.) -Holly Hey guys-

I just reread my post and Shawn’s comments. I meant Sam not Shawn. http://geekcast.fm/wp-content/uploads/pjpodcast.mp3 I think I need to do a better job proofreading if I am going to post.

I’ll up my caffeine intake and all will be good.

Ok, Ok, I am very interested. (Kris-I will try and reach out to you for an introduction next week.)

-Holly

]]> By: Vlad http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11542 Vlad Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:14:08 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11542 Holly, I have expressed my regret of raising the issue about members of CJ PAB at Scot Jangro's blog. But I guess it should have been done here as well. I did not try to point a finger at anyone. I just presumed that every one on the board is there because they are the leading affiliates. I thought it would be interesting to hear their take on this story- that's all. Holly,

I have expressed my regret of raising the issue about members of CJ PAB at Scot Jangro’s blog. But I guess it should have been done here as well.

I did not try to point a finger at anyone. I just presumed that every one on the board is there because they are the leading affiliates. I thought it would be interesting to hear their take on this story- that’s all.

]]> By: Shawn Collins http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11539 Shawn Collins Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:01:50 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11539 > It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments. I haven't interviewed anybody about the situation. > It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments.

I haven’t interviewed anybody about the situation.

]]> By: Holly Preuss http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11538 Holly Preuss Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:48:23 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11538 Hi Vlad- I was recently on the CJ Advisory Board (see link here: https://www.cj.com/advertisers/advisory_board.html) but am not a current 2008 member. I have worked with Jim Jessup (above) while he was at CJ and was amazed when after his departure from CJ to Yahoo! (he is the director of their affiliate program there among other things) he returned a call from me to his cell looking for information. He spent 30 minutes giving me advice and updating me. I find Jim to be a passionate marketer who has always been fair in assessing situations. It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments. I think the large programs do in fact follow these things as I do. Although I haven't worked with PJ, I have heard Kris speak at a number of events and respect his work and he should post here and speak on the topic often. The fact is we all Google alerts and general subscriptions to the blogs for our industry. It gives us the insight into what happens to other partners. We just don't always take the time to post (as ourselves or anonymously). Open discourse is always best. I can say that I do hold the management team at CJ in high regard. I find that they have been upfront with me over the past 6 years with all sorts of programs large and small. This does not mean I endorse some of the behaviours that are described here but as an overall long-term experience with different levels of their staff, I've been mostly impressed and happy with the company. Hi Vlad-

I was recently on the CJ Advisory Board (see link here: https://www.cj.com/advertisers/advisory_board.html) but am not a current 2008 member.

I have worked with Jim Jessup (above) while he was at CJ and was amazed when after his departure from CJ to Yahoo! (he is the director of their affiliate program there among other things) he returned a call from me to his cell looking for information. He spent 30 minutes giving me advice and updating me. I find Jim to be a passionate marketer who has always been fair in assessing situations.

It is difficult to make an assessment of the situation based on this blog and some of the interviews that Shawn has had on his radio program because it is a bit of second-hand assessments. I think the large programs do in fact follow these things as I do. Although I haven’t worked with PJ, I have heard Kris speak at a number of events and respect his work and he should post here and speak on the topic often. The fact is we all Google alerts and general subscriptions to the blogs for our industry. It gives us the insight into what happens to other partners. We just don’t always take the time to post (as ourselves or anonymously).

Open discourse is always best. I can say that I do hold the management team at CJ in high regard. I find that they have been upfront with me over the past 6 years with all sorts of programs large and small. This does not mean I endorse some of the behaviours that are described here but as an overall long-term experience with different levels of their staff, I’ve been mostly impressed and happy with the company.

]]> By: Evan http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11457 Evan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:37:24 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11457 Ya actually I wanted to make a cool resource/community with tutorials and forums on CJ and aff marketing in general. I don't own the domain, one of my many partnerships...I just put it up to get some rankings, I will work on it soon... Ya actually I wanted to make a cool resource/community with tutorials and forums on CJ and aff marketing in general. I don’t own the domain, one of my many partnerships…I just put it up to get some rankings, I will work on it soon…

]]> By: Sam Harrelson http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11456 Sam Harrelson Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:23:04 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11456 Evan- So is cjaffiliate.com/ your way of showing your CJ love? :) Sam Evan-

So is cjaffiliate.com/ your way of showing your CJ love? :)

Sam

]]> By: Evan http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11455 Evan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:18:29 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11455 LOL..Oh no he didn't Jim. I just read Kris Jones thought Jim Jessup's name was made up! That freakin cracked me up...Jim your post was the most articulate thing I have read in months, good job. LOL..Oh no he didn’t Jim. I just read Kris Jones thought Jim Jessup’s name was made up! That freakin cracked me up…Jim your post was the most articulate thing I have read in months, good job.

]]> By: Evan http://www.revenews.com/affiliate-marketing/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11453 Evan Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:59:11 +0000 http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/questionable-business-practices-in-affiliate-marketing-part-278/#comment-11453 I just listened to the podcast and after listening I have to say that the move to launch a network while managing CJ programs for merchants, appears to me to be a bad conflict of interest. This probably should have been cleared with CJ before they launched to stay ahead of the game, if CJ expressed having an issue well in advance of launch, Pepper Jam could have come to some sort of agreement about having a network and still maintaining managing CJ programs...my opinion is....that you shouldn't have launched a network, claimed it was so great, obtained endorsements from industry perceived heavy-weights and still expected to manage CJ programs and CJ wouldn't want to protect its interests?? Seriously... I mean there are only a finite number of super affiliates publisher relationships out there and CJ has the best, Linkshare #2 and Shareasale #3....everyone else is an email network primarily, without the brand-names or webmaster-seo-super-affs. So, in order to preserve that fact, although I personally think they should have acted sooner, Pepperjam shouldn't be allowed to manage within the CJ interface anymore. To me this would seem obvious. I'm sure some of my collegues in the industry will disagree with me but I am a huge fan of CJ and the great system they have developed and I don't like when people trash it! Now let me get back to my blogging, I need to drive some more traffic! Yooouuuu knoooowwww. I just listened to the podcast and after listening I have to say that the move to launch a network while managing CJ programs for merchants, appears to me to be a bad conflict of interest. This probably should have been cleared with CJ before they launched to stay ahead of the game, if CJ expressed having an issue well in advance of launch, Pepper Jam could have come to some sort of agreement about having a network and still maintaining managing CJ programs…my opinion is….that you shouldn’t have launched a network, claimed it was so great, obtained endorsements from industry perceived heavy-weights and still expected to manage CJ programs and CJ wouldn’t want to protect its interests?? Seriously… I mean there are only a finite number of super affiliates publisher relationships out there and CJ has the best, Linkshare #2 and Shareasale #3….everyone else is an email network primarily, without the brand-names or webmaster-seo-super-affs. So, in order to preserve that fact, although I personally think they should have acted sooner, Pepperjam shouldn’t be allowed to manage within the CJ interface anymore. To me this would seem obvious. I’m sure some of my collegues in the industry will disagree with me but I am a huge fan of CJ and the great system they have developed and I don’t like when people trash it! Now let me get back to my blogging, I need to drive some more traffic! Yooouuuu knoooowwww.

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